Big Show leaving WWE next year
Posted 28 October 2006 - 07:32 PM
Also, the Heyman annoucement as last night's house show was that Big Show wouldnt be wrestling but instead Heyman would take his place against RVD so Show's back must be really bad right now.
Posted 29 October 2006 - 01:16 AM
Posted 29 October 2006 - 01:38 PM
I've always liked Big Show and I don't want to see him suffer from his size like poor Andre did.
I think it shows alot that he became the go-to guy after the bad press from RVD/Sabu. He's really run with the opportunity. I've watched every title run he's had and his ECW run has been the most enjoyable to watch.
It sounds like RVD isn't taking responsibility for his actions if McMahon is so determined to keep him from being Champion. Lord knows he's never had problems having champions with questionable pasts, before.
I'm going to miss Show if he retires next year. He's been blessed with a long career and hopefully he'll still have his health. I wish him the best.
Posted 29 October 2006 - 07:44 PM
Posted 31 October 2006 - 02:48 PM
the big slow should have been out a long while ago... and why the ecw title was put on him when theres much more deserving and hard working guys is beyond me. RVD could carry that belt and OWN ecw.. i mean come on, hes mr monday night, mr friday night... hell,.. hes mr everynight.
and cm punk? its been a long time coming for that dude to get what he deserves because hes been through hell and high water to get where he is.
Posted 01 November 2006 - 02:10 PM
Anyway it's sad that he's leaving, but yeah it's probably what's best for his health (he really needs to lose 120 lbs. too, while he's at it). If I were Vince I'd try and sign him for a short term contract-extension through Wrestlemania, and then move Benoit over to ECW to replace him, as without the Big Show ECW is even more screwed for star-power.
Posted 01 November 2006 - 02:39 PM
The hell is this supposed to mean? RVD's taken "responsibility" for his actions by pleading guilty in court and paying his fine. If you think RVD and Sabu are the only wrestlers who smoke pot you're living in a dreamland. If you think Vince gives a **** that two of wrestlers smoke dope, again, you're living in a dreamland. RVD got _caught_, that's the problem. Vince McMahon thrives on negative publicity, but not when it comes to drugs, considering the company nearly imploded and he nearly went to jail in the early 90s after the steroid scandal, and now he's hyper-sensitive about that sort of thing. Rob Van Dam was a sitting World Champion when he got caught. Vince McMahon had finally warmed up to the guy but now he thinks he's not trustworthy to hold that title and not cause him the sort of mainstream embarassment that he doesn't want. Well, it sucks for him (McMahon) because the only three credible ECW Champions right now are the Big Show, RVD, and Sabu (oh and _maybe_ the Sandman).
Whuh, wait, he has? It's not that he doesn't deserve his spot, but what are you referring to? He hasn't had any major injuries as far as I know. Never had a substance abuse problem (he legit lives his gimmick; well, except maybe the monogamy part of the Straight Edge creedo). As far as I know he's never lost a close friend in the business or been through a divorce. He's wrestled for seven years or so, and while not a rookie he's not really a grizzled veteran either, and was an indy star who was able to make a full-time living off of wrestling prior to entering the WWE developmental program, and is a guy who got a push from day one in (WWE developmental fed) OVW and again in ECW. It's true that unlike a lot of people in the WWE he got to where he was entirely because of his skill and not because of his physique or backstage politicking, but still, I really don't know what you're talking about. Is there something in particular you're referring to?
Posted 02 November 2006 - 07:22 AM
Posted 02 November 2006 - 09:17 AM
Posted 03 November 2006 - 12:09 AM
Oh dear. It appears that I have stuck my foot in it this time. I guess I should agree to stay off of the message board until the next PPV.
Sorry. I should have stuck an "almost" before sounds. I'm not trying to bash the reputation of Rob Van Dam. I'm one of the biggest marks for the guy and want to see him get the reward that he deserves for his ability. I'm well aware that Rob is taking responsibility for what he did by pleading guilty, paying his fine, and serving his month-long suspension. I'm also very grounded in the reality of promoters turning a blind eye to their athletes' negative activity so long as it doesn't hurt the product that they are making money in. I even remember Vince's steroid scandal back in the 90s very well.
I'm just trying to figure out why RVD should continue to be punished if everything has been resolved with the courts and with the company. I realize that right now is not a good time because the story is still fresh. But, never??? If Rob turns over a new leaf and gives up drugs entirely, becomes completely clean and a model citizen. Shouldn't he be rewarded? I don't like the finality of the word "never", but Rob screwed up and Vince is being hyper-sensitive. It sucks but it's also completely understandable.
I'm not looking to start a fight with you, or anyone for that matter. I've read some of your other posts and actually love your comments about wrestling.
Posted 03 November 2006 - 12:33 AM
Trickman, I'm quite familiar with his Ring Of Honor days, and I'm pretty sure he never missed a significant amount of time due to injury. If you are referring to something or somethings specific, feel free to tell me what.
As for his pre-ROH stuff, I did some research and he did suffer at least one significant injury when Reckless Youth cracked his skull in 2002. I'm not sure how much time he missed but it was no more than four months. As for him working for peanuts while having a job on the side, that describes almost every indy wrestler out there. The fact that after a few years he was able to fully support himself by wrestling is something over nine-out-of-ten indy wrestlers never experience. This is a testament to Punk's abilities, and he deserves what he's gotten, but I don't see him as having particularly suffered. If you consider those two injuries in a six year career going through "hell and high water," fine, whatever. Agree to disagree and all that jazz.
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